Thursday, November 20, 2025

The 1870 Wreck of the Electric at Glenelg

 

Two contrasting shipwrecks seemingly occurred in Australian waters in 1870. One was a steamship in Victorian waters and the other was a sailing ship in South Australian waters. The one in Victorian waters is said to be “one of the worst maritime disasters in Victorian history”. The one in South Australian waters, however, hardly rates a mention and very little is known about it.

So, what is the connection between these two incidents? The problem is that the Internet gets the two of them confused. An Internet search for “the ship electric lost at Glenelg 1870” receives the response that “SS Glenelg is historically significant as one of the worst maritime disasters in Victorian history, with the deaths of at least 38 people and only three survivors. The wreck has the potential for archaeological significance with some of the hull preserved under the sand.”

Even the Microsoft Copilot AI Assistant brought the SS Glenelg into the discussion. The only connection between the SS Glenelg  and the Electric is that the Electric is said to have been wrecked at Glenelg (30 years earlier). So why the confusion?

Although I have written about the Electric of 1865 in the past (“The emigrant ship Electric”), I hadn’t heard the complete story about it, and I hadn’t heard exactly what kind of ship the Electric was.

This was the first part of “The emigrant ship Electric”: -

(I have also previously written about the SS Glenelg i.e. “Aquability located the wreck the SS Glenelg on 28th June 2009 after several attempts. The Glenelg sank 55 miles west of Lakes Entrance, 7 miles offshore, …. on the 24th March 1900.”)

Only one of my SA shipwreck books seems to mention the Electric at all. It is “South Australian Shipwrecks – A Data Base 1802-1989” by Peter Cristopher.

I had not previously thought to investigate just why “South Australian Shipwrecks – A Data Base 1802-1989” was listing the Electric as a shipwreck that occurred on22nd September 1870, particularly when it seemed to mirror the vessel’s near stranding exactly five years earlier in 1865.

Certainly, I may have been able to query the location of the wrecking at Glenelg, as opposed to the near stranding at Marino Rocks, or that the ship was an immigrant ship in 1865, but a Mail Boat in 1870. No further information is given in “South Australian Shipwrecks – A Data Base 1802-1989”.

It has been suggested that the Electric was actually wrecked (at Glenelg) in November rather than September 1870. The September date in “South Australian Shipwrecks – A Data Base 1802-1989” almost mirrors the near-stranding date from 1865.

If indeed, the Electric really was wrecked off Glenelg in 1870, why does it not feature in books such as “Shipwrecks in South Australia (1836-1875) by Ronald Parsons, or “Wrecks on the South Australian Coast” by Jack Loney?

According to Wikitree, the Electric was a (sailing ship) of 1106 tons. According to https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/57884457 , “The Emigrant Ship Electric …. 1,106 tons, built at Quebec in 1857.”

After some long discussions with the Microsoft Copilot AI Assistant about the Electric, I was finally able to determine that, although the Electric is said to have been wrecked off Glenelg, the wreck was raised and removed.

According to Trove (Evening Journal Mon 26 Sep 1870), “Wreck Of The Glenelg Mailboat - In Friday's “Register” we mentioned the sinking of the Electric (Glenelg mailboat) during the heavy weather of the previous morning. It has since been raised, and now lies a complete wreck by the side of the Jetty. The boat, like most other small craft, was uninsured, and much sympathy is expressed for Mr. Pennington, upon whom the entire loss will fall.”


Glenelg jetty circa 1874

(This picture shows the Landing of the first mail” (1874) . It was from my own collection. The original picture was an engraving which was first published in the “Australasian Sketcher” on 21st March 1874, page 212. That copy of the picture is held by the National Library of Australia in Canberra. A copy of the picture features in the book “The Place of Waters” by Dulcie M. Perry, page 61.)

The fact that the wreck was raised and removed seems to be the reason that there are no details for the shipwreck on Nature Maps.

When I asked the Microsoft Copilot AI Assistant, “Was the ship Electric, that was near stranded at Marino Rocks in 1865, shipwrecked near Glenelg in 1870?

The Assistant’s response was, “Direct Answer: Yes — the Electric was the same ship. It narrowly avoided stranding at Marino Rocks in 1865, and five years later, in 1870, it was wrecked near Glenelg.

The Assistant went on to discuss the Electric in 1865, including as follows:

“In November 1870, the Electric was wrecked near Glenelg, South Australia. This was a complete loss, unlike the near-miss of 1865. The wreck is recorded in South Australian maritime history databases and memorials at Marino Rocks and Glenelg.

“Conclusion - The Electric had two major incidents in South Australian waters:

1865 – Near-stranding at Marino Rocks during its immigrant voyage.

1870 – Final wreck near Glenelg.”

“The Electric was wrecked near Glenelg in November 1870 after striking a reef during rough weather. The grounding tore open her hull, and she quickly became a total loss.”

I then told the Assistant, “There is much confusion over the date in 1870. 22/09/1870, rather than November 1870 has been mentioned. 22/9/1865 is the date given for the Marino Rocks near stranding.”

The Assistant’s response was:

“Direct Answer: The confusion arises because 22 September 1865 was the date of the Electric’s near-stranding at Marino Rocks, while her final wreck occurred in 1870. Some sources mistakenly conflate the two events, leading to references to 22 September 1870 instead of the correct later date.”

The Microsoft Copilot AI Assistant told me that (re the Electric being lost near Glenelg in 1870) “Some records give November 1870, while others incorrectly cite 22 September 1870, likely due to confusion with the earlier 1865 near-stranding date. The Australasian Underwater Cultural Heritage Database confirms the wreck year as 1870, but does not list a precise day.”

But the South Australian Register 26th September 1870 clearly indicates that the wrecking did, indeed, happen that month rather than in November that year.

Some accounts mention November 1870, which may reflect the timing of the inquiry or reporting rather than the actual day of loss.

The Microsoft Copilot AI Assistant later stated that, “Some accounts mention November 1870, which may reflect the timing of the inquiry or reporting rather than the actual day of loss.”

 

Sunday, September 22, 2024

Australian Warships Scuttled as Dive Wrecks 1997-2011

My re-produced video Australian Warships Scuttled as Dive Wrecks 1997-2011 is now on my YouTube channel at https://youtu.be/qkkmwfnoH6U

Saturday, July 13, 2024

 Clearly I haven't posted to this site for quite a while. Most of my work is posted on sites for the Marine Life Society of South Australia, the monthly newsletter for the Scuba Divers Federation of South Australia, the bi-monthly magazine Dive Log Australasia, and my own Wix site for the South Australian Archaeology Society at https://stevereynolds.wixsite.com/website .

The problem now is that I am unable to continue scuba diving anymore due to illness. I still hope to be able to write about my favourite subject, but first hand experience is now out of the question.

I may still return to this site from time to time, but that is largely unknown at this stage.



 Clearly I haven't posted to this site for quite a while. Most of my work is posted on sites for the Marine Life Society of South Australia, the monthly newsletter for the Scuba Divers Federation of South Australia, the bi-monthly magazine Dive Log Australasia, and my own Wix site for the South Australian Archaeology Society at https://stevereynolds.wixsite.com/website .

The problem now is that I am unable to continue scuba diving anymore due to illness. I still hope to be able to write about my favourite subject, but first hand experience is now out of the question.

I may still return to this site from time to time, but that is largely unknown at this stage.


Monday, December 18, 2023

NEW SITES BEING USED FOR POSTS

 Most new content is now being posted at the South Australian Archaeology Society's website at https://stevereynolds.wixsite.com/website and Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/groups/suhrsa/ . Further posts are being made to the website at Marine Life Society of South Australia Inc. – Understanding, enjoying and caring for our oceans (mlssa.org.au). Look for relevant categories such as Maritime History, Shipwrecks, Anchors, etc..

Thursday, October 24, 2019

Two Japanese Aircraft Carriers found deep in the Pacific

Although I'm not keen on deep-water wrecks, the wreck of the Japanese aircraft carrier Kaga was discovered in October 2019. Another wreck thought to be either the Japanese aircraft carrier Akagi or the Soryu has been found almost 5 1/2km deep in the Pacific Ocean. The crew of deep-sea explorers looking for WW2 warships were using an autonomous underwater vehicle equipped with sonar when the found this latest carrier over 2000km NW of Pearl Harbor. The vessel is said to have gone down in the Battle of Midway.

Tuesday, August 6, 2019

USS Grunion's bow has been discovered

According to the web page found at https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/uss-grunions-bow-is-discovered-off-the-coast-of-alaska-nearly-80-years-after-the-submarine-sunk-during-wwii/ar-AAFqQWJ?ocid=spartanntp , the Gato-class submarine USS Grunion's bow has been discovered off the coast of Alaska nearly 80 years after sinking during WWII